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First of all, thank you to Graeme Hague's for directing me to this site.
 
I'm a musician and hopeful recording artist who’s looking for some advice on a good system for recording some songs. I have purchased a copy of The Guerrila Guide Recording and Sound Production 2010 and have been reading through it thoroughly, it has been a great help and has given me a good deal of insight into the process of recording music at home. I’m getting ready to go out and start collecting the various pieces of equipment that will start me off on this life choice and I will be using your guide very closely. But before I go out and spend all my money on the stuff I wanted to send you an email.
 
I’m a member of an unusual 3-piece band in that we use Bass Guitars heavily; in fact we have a drummer and two bassists (Lead and Rhythm) as our main set up and the main vocals are very deep. I was just wondering what would be the best set up to handle all the heavy, lower frequencies that we’ll be using? 
  
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CJ Bass Player said:

First of all, thank you to Graeme Hague's for directing me to this site.

 

I'm a musician and hopeful recording artist who’s looking for some advice on a good system for recording some songs. I have purchased a copy of The Guerrila Guide Recording and Sound Production 2010 and have been reading through it thoroughly, it has been a great help and has given me a good deal of insight into the process of recording music at home. I’m getting ready to go out and start collecting the various pieces of equipment that will start me off on this life choice and I will be using your guide very closely. But before I go out and spend all my money on the stuff I wanted to send you an email.

 

I’m a member of an unusual 3-piece band in that we use Bass Guitars heavily; in fact we have a drummer and two bassists (Lead and Rhythm) as our main set up and the main vocals are very deep. I was just wondering what would be the best set up to handle all the heavy, lower frequencies that we’ll be using? 

  

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Hey CJ

 

I'm making the assumption that you're setting up to track & mix the tunes yourself at home, so my input isn't really going to be a list of what hardware you'll need, but more about the consideration of the space(s) you'll be recording and mixing in. If you have already taken this into consideration, then read no further and get yourself a Sweetwater gear catalogue to start drooling over drool wink

 

Quite possibly the biggest problem you're going to have is during mixdown when you're trying to blend all those low frequencies together without the tracks turning to mush.

The hardware you buy to record the instruments (mic preamps, converters, etc) should all handle bass frequencies really well, but how well your monitoring environment copes with them will depend a lot on the room you're sitting in and how well it has been acoustically treated to minimise the effect of low freq standing waves and reflections. If the room allows a build up of low frequency energy, with all the bass frequencies in your tunes there are going to be standing waves all over the place which is going to really make mixing the tracks a bit of a nightmare as you'll constantly be fighting these.

You'd also be well advised to look at treating your live room to dampen any nasty reflections/standing waves so that the mics (especially overheads, room mics and vocal mics) aren't picking up a lot of unwanted mud bouncing around the room. You can always try to DI the bass(es) to avoid any problems emanating from the room, but for drums, the effect of a highly reflective or 'boomy' room can have an impact on the clarity of the recording. Not to say you have to deaden it completely - some 'nice' reflections can really add to the recording, especially for drums - but without some treatment, your average empty room is unsuitable for recording.

 

Got to fly, but I hope this may have been of some use and given you something to think about.

 

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Do Sweetwater ship to Australia?

I remember emailing them about something a couple years ago when I was starting out and got an email back from someone telling me that they were now my "personal sales engineer" or something naff like that and he wanted to know a heap of details about me -- where I was in the world, what music I like, what music I made, what instruments I play, how much experience I had -- I understand this from a marketing point of view, but the whole thing felt really creepy and stupid.


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LOL!

The term "personal sales engineer" sounds typically corporate American - no wonder you were creeped out ;)

Only ever had the opportunity to browse through one S.W. catalogue, but it was like porn for musos w00t

I'm not really sure if S.W. ships directly to Australia. Never purchased anything from them.

A friend of mine here in Melb used to get gear he'd purchased in the U.S. sent to a distribution company in the U.S. which would pack his gear in with other stuff they were shipping to the company he worked for here in Aus.

 

What shits me no end is the price difference between what the gear costs overseas compared to what we pay here in Aus!

With the Aussie $ at near-parity with the US, we're still paying nearly twice the price.

Even Rode mics are cheaper overseas, yet the head office is in Sydney!!!

 

grumble grumble grumble a loaf of bread used to cost a ha'penny grumble grumble  wink

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Yeah, I've taken a look at http://myus2.myus.com before and a friend recommended that to me but meh... too hard.


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Thanks for your advice Dags. I'll see if I can get a hold of a Sweetwater mag and have a look through it, also you have given me something to think about with the recording room. Many thanks.


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Hey Dags!

 

That sales engineer thing gets me too!

 

I'm a Technician........I work on computers.

 

Somehow........in the last 10 years, I've become an engineer!


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Hey, America is a corporation! I should know I live there.

Sweetwater is  a good company, very honest and nice. I've purchased several products from them and they even  send candy with each purchase. They will assign a sales tech to you for life, he will answer all of your questions. They are very organized and professional.

I've probably made  purchases from every main online distributors in the USA.   There's quite a few.

Is it difficult to get music gear in Australia?


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I don't know about you guys but telling our friend to ship stuff in from the USA seams a bit extreme.  I may be a fool but I have always got excellent prices from Factory Sound.  I say I might be a fool because who knows what Factory Sound pay but for example I recently (last year) brought a UAD laptop card advertised price $800 actual price $650.  Nt2a advertised price almost $950 actual price if I remember was $550.  You get my drift.

 

Also since you are mixing bass heavy music make sure you get some monitors with bass ports or reflex these from what I have read are far more accurate when listening to bass.  I have a set of Yorkvilles and I have had these for 10 years really great flat speakers with a bass port.  I think you can pick a set up for around $800.

 

Also you will need somthing small to moniter on because of the bass heavy aspect of your music knowing how small speakers are going to handle those frequencies is super important.

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Sorry if I have caused confusion.

You don't have to ship stuff from the States - it can become costly doing that if import tax is applied - I just have a friend who had overseas connections which made it cheaper for him to bring stuff in on containers and the range of products available overseas also seems to be much larger.

The prices for gear here in Aus do seem to be unreasonably high when compared to overseas prices though.



And besides,  if you have ever seen a sweetwater catalogue you'll know what I'm talking about drool

LOL!


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